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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby udballer » Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:59 am

Commissioner wrote:Kansas State 95, Wake Forest 88. Aren't "play ins" to be the 11th seed stupid? If you are going to have play-ins, shouldn't they all be 16th seeds? It's like the NCAA just says, "oh, we can't make up our minds for the final 2 at large bids, so we'll just let them shoot it out." A really dumb thing in a nearly perfect sporting event, if you ask me (I know, you didn't).


I'll take it a step in a different direction and say that the play-in games should not be included in this tournament at all. That said, I'm more in favor of making two at-large teams play in than stealing a bid from a mid-major team as a #16 seed. If a mid or low major wins their conference or conference tourney, they should be in the actual bracket... not a footnote for a Tuesday game on top.

Don't get me started on my other conspiracy theories of the selection committee. Though (I believe) that the majority of college basketball fans love seeing the Cinderellas... the tournament committee hates them. They seem to prefer major teams getting knocked out by major teams, only. It is extremely evident in the 7vs10 matchups in this year's bracket.

(7) South Carolina vs. (10) Marquette
(7) Saint Mary's vs. (10) VCU
(7) Michigan vs. (10) Oklahoma State
(7) Dayton vs. (10) Wichita State

Looks like teams from the Big Ten, SEC, Big East and Big 12 are set up to play each other. Also looks like teams from the A-10, MVC and WAC are set up to play each other. Some of the better "mid-majors" in this tournament are squaring off in round one with Saint Mary's, VCU, Dayton and Wichita State. Good way to eliminate two of them right off the bat. I'd much rather have seen:

(7) South Carolina vs. (10) VCU
(7) Saint Mary's vs. (10) Marquette
(7) Michigan vs. (10) Wichita State
(7) Dayton vs. (10) Oklahoma State

... in fact, were these matchups on my bracket... I'd have Saint Mary's, Wichita State and Dayton all moving on for sure... and thinking hard on VCU.

Okay. That's as serious as I get.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby Tacitus651 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:42 pm

I'm just glad ND is playing at 12:15 tomorrow. Only have to work a half day, then watch the game with some good food and then go home. Nice!
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby Commissioner » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:05 am

Wednesday, the Ides of March:

Horizon:
UMKC 92, Green Bay 82. Green Bay may have entered this CBI game a bit overconfident after beating UMKC by 18 back in November. Host UMKC (18-16) hit 13 of 23 three point shots to Green Bay's 4 of 21, and that was the difference. Karem Kanter led the Phoenix, who finish 18-14, with 20 points. 1128 turned out in Kansas City.

Non-Conference Opponents:
George Washington 73, Toledo 69. In the CBI, Maurice Joseph wins his first game without the "Interim" in front of his title of Head Coach at GW. GW (20-14) never trailed, and held off a late UT rally. Toledo (17-17) used a future look--senior Jonathan Williams did not play and senior Steve Taylor came off the bench for just 22 minutes. Those were there two best players during the year. Attendance in DC was 1016.

Fort Wayne 88, Ball State 80. Fort Wayne used a 54 point second half to rally to victory over Ball State (21-13) in the CIT. Senior Brent Calhoun, a one-time Titan commit, had a career high 27 points to lead the Mastodons (20-12). 1479 attended in Fort Wayne.

Other Games:

NCAA
USC 75, Providence 71. Face it, we all knew USC didn't belong in the tournament. Providence (20-13) rolled up a 15 point halftime lead, and we could write this game off. Surprise! The second half was all Southern Cal (25-9). A very interesting game. That said, play-in games for the 11th seed are still pretty stupid.

UC Davis 67, North Carolina Central 63. UC Davis (23-12) wins its first ever NCAA game. Don't knock a "play-in" win--it counts as a game for the distribution of money, meaning UC-Davis's conference, the Big West, will get at least 2 shares for each of the next 5 years. MEAC Champ NC Central finishes 25-9.

NIT
Illinois State 85, Cal-Irvine 71. Illinois State, the highest RPI team left out of the Big Dance (#33), torched Irvine before a good crowd of over 5000 in Normal. The Redbirds are unbeaten at home this year, and 28-6 overall.

UT-Arlington 105, BYU 89. UT-Arlington was a bit of a trendy pick for a first round NCAA upset, before they got ambushed in the Sunbelt Tournament. The Mavericks entered the NIT with the second highest RPI of any participant (45). The two played a sizzling, if error-filled, first half, with BYU hitting 59.4% of its shots overall, 5 of 12 from three, and 75% from the line in 16 attempts, only to be behind 62-55. Ten turnovers in the half didn't help, but UTA also shot 63.4%, and 7 of 15 from three. UTA (26-8) then opened the second half with a 12-4 run and BYU (22-12) never got the lead back under 10. Attendance was 7247.

Belmont 78, Georgia 69. Hurrah for the little guy! Georgia (19-15) actually played pretty well, but ran into a hot shooting Bruin team that made 14 three pointers. Seventh seed Belmont is 23-6.

Akron 78, Houston 75. Another #7 seed wins in the NIT. Noah Robotham made four free throws in the final 18 seconds to ice it for Akron (27-8).

Central Florida 79, Colorado 74. Trailing by 9 with 30 seconds left, the Buffs (19-15) scored 7 points in 16 seconds to put a scare into the Knights (22-11), but that was all they could do.

Syracuse 90, UNC-Greensboro 77. Andrew White had 34 for Syracuse (19-14).

TCU 66, Fresno State 59.
Iowa 87, South Dakota 75. Announced attendance of nearly 13,000. Didn't see the game. Wonder if many were season ticket holders with empty seats.

CBI
Utah Valley 74, Georgia Southern 49. 603 people packed themselves into Hanner Fieldhouse in Statesboro, Georgia, but came away disappointed.

Loyola (Md.) 73, George Mason 58. Always interesting to see who comes ready to play to these 3rd tier tournaments. It wasn't Mason (20-14), who shot 33% from the field in losing to Loyola (16-16), which entered with a sub-.500 record and an RPI of 212. Michigander Jaire Grayer had 17 for GMU, but Kamari Newman was skunked. It's interesting that in the fall of 2015, Newman and Corey Allen were ranked about even as prep recruits. GMU has a third Michigan kid, Grosse Point's Danny Dixson, a little-used back-up center. He did not play. Attendance was 1400 in Fairfax.

Wyoming 91, Eastern Washington 81. When the CBI started, it's goal was to compete with the NIT for power conference programs. For a few years it did, but it's really become a basket case of a tournament (see next score). The NCAA has discouraged P6 teams from playing, I believe, but I guess not enough to launch an anti-trust lawsuit. Anywa, along with A10 squads George Washington and George Mason, Wyoming is about the closest thing to a "power school" in this year's tournament. Eastern Washington (22-12, of the Big Sky Conference, has two 20 point per game scorers, Bogdan Bliznyak and Jacob Wiley, and they combined for 55 points tonight, but it wasn't enough.

Coastal Carolina 83, Hampton 67. Both of these teams entered the CBI with sub-.500 records, but Coastal came out at .500 (17-17). No word on attendance in Conway, SC.

Rice 85, San Francisco 76. USF (20-13) had the best RPI in the CBI (94), but they lost to Rice (23-11). Rice hasn't won so many games since 1954.

CIT
UMBC 88, Fairfield 83. So Fairfield is one of our "peer" schools, eh? Well, junior Tyler Nelson had 30 points, 10 rebounds and 7 assists, but it wasn't enough to stave off a season ending defeat for the Stags (16-15). 688 were accounted for in the game at UMBC's campus.

Texas A&M-CC 80, Georgia State 64. This loss ends Georgia State Assistant Coach Ray McCallum's season, the Panthers finishing 20-13. Corpus Christi is 21-11, and 14-1 at home. Must be the fans. Attendance was 897 in Corpus Christi.

Idaho 73, Stephen F. Austin 50. The Vandals (19-13), another cool nickname, won easy before 1109 in Moscow.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby titanmac » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:38 pm

kyle gaines was the medalist recently at the butler invitational leading the titans to a third place finish in the tournament. the senior was named horizon league pow for his efforts. nice job kyle! here's to many more before your done!
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby Commissioner » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:32 am

Finally, some real post-season, NCAA stuff. With just two lower seeds winning today, and only one a serious upset (Middle Tennessee over Minnesota) odds suggests more upsets tomorrow. March 16:

Horizon:
UIC 71, Stony Brook 69. UIC (16-18) went on a 19-2 run early in the second half to take a 18 point lead, then held off a fierce Stony Brook rally that had it a 1 possession game in the final 10 seconds. So one of two Horizon teams in the NIT survives the first round, and 1 of 2 in the CBI does likewise. Attendance at the Pavilion in Chicago was announced as 1197.

Non-Conference Titan Opponents:
Florida State 86, Florida Gulf Coast 80. FGCU fought to the bitter end, but FSU had a bit too much. Dwayne Bacon had 25 points and 9 rebounds and Jonathan Isaac added 17 and 10 for FSU (25-8).

NCAA
Gonzaga 66, South Dakota State 46. It was a four point game at the half, but SD State lacked staying power.
Villanova 76, Mt. St. Mary's 56. It was a one point game at the half, but Mt. St. Mary's also lost by 20 in the end.

Arizona 100, North Dakota 82.

Butler 76, Winthrop 64. Not much trouble for Butler.
West Virginia 86, Bucknell 80. WVU opened an early 15 point lead, but Bucknell refused to go away until the final minutes.
Florida 80, East Tennessee State 65. Florida pulled away in the second half.
Purdue 80, Vermont 70. Vermont gave Purdue a tussle, but in the end the Boilermakers were too much for the Catamounts, and end the nation's longest winning streak.

Virginia 76, UNC-Wilmington 71. A good game, and a food effort by UNC-W, but they come up short.
Middle Tennessee State 81, Minnesota 72. The upsets finally began in the late afternoon games, and once again it was Middle Tennessee State knocking off a Big 10 team.

Iowa State 84, Nevada 73. Monte Morris had 19 points, 8 rebounds and 8 assists for ISU.
Notre Dame 60, Princeton 58. A good game, and a food effort by Princeton, but they come up short. The Tigers had a chance for the win but Devin Cannady missed a three with 7 seconds left and Notre Dame up by 1. Cannady, a 42% three-point shooter on the year, was just 2-10 today.

Xavier 76, Maryland 65. After staggering through February, Xavier seems to have righted the ship just in time. A 14-0 run midway through the second half gave them control of this one.

St. Mary's 85, VCU 77. I agree, the NCAA likes to pit the mid-majors against one another.

Wisconsin 84, Virginia Tech 74. A close, well-played game.
Northwestern 68, Vanderbilt 66. In the Brainiac Pod, Vanderbilt gained its first lead of the game with 39 seconds to play on a Jeff Roberson layup. After trading Northwestern free throws and a Vandy bucket, the Wildcats took the lead by 1 point on a pair of Brian McIntosh free throws with 14 seconds to play. After a Commodore miss, Sanjay Lumpkin added another Northwestern free throw for the final score. Northwestern is a perfect 1-0 all-time in NCAA play.


CIT
St. Peter's 59, Albany 55. St Peter's wins its 20th, equalling their most wins since 1991. 641 were on hand to witness the event.
Furman 79, USC-Upstate 57. Furman disappointed a USC-Upstate crowd of 662.
Tennessee Martin 89, UNC-Ashville 75. UNC-Ashville (23-10) had the highest RPI (73) of any team in the CIT. 504 turned out at the Skyhawk Arena in Martin.
Texas State 70, Lamar 60. They packed 'em in in San Marcos--1255 announced for this first round CIT game.
Weber State 80, Cal-State Fullerton 76. Weber wins a back-and-forth game down in Fullerton.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby Commissioner » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:50 pm

UIC beat George Washington of the Atlantic 10, 80-71 tonight in the CBI. That's a good win--GW entered the game at 20-12, with an RPI of 101. UIC started 4 freshmen: Dominique Matthews had 15 points and 5 rebounds; Godwin Boahen had 15 points, 8 assists, and 5 rebounds; KJ Santos had 11 points and 6 rebounds; and Tarkus Ferguson had 6 points, 10 rebounds, 12 assists, and 3 steals. A 5th freshman, Marcus Ottey, contributed 10 points off the bench. They're going to be tough to stop the next couple seasons. The CBI will probably set up UIC to play Coach McClain's old team, Wyoming, in the semi-final.

Who'd have thought that UIC would be the last Horizon team playing in the post-season?
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby titanmac » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:59 am

freshman scott sparks closed the second day of the bobby nichols intercollegiate with a four under par 68, thereby pushing another freshman, zack tenerovicz, for the team lead after the second round. sparks closed the day with a two round total of 151 just behind tenerovicz's 149, and senior, last weeks league pow, kyle gaines who finished the day with a 150. while that, as a team, was for no better than 8th in a nine team field, the play of the two freshmen bodes well for the future of titan golf. the third and final round began today at 9 am.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby TitanTarHeel » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:20 pm

High school state playoffs...

Quarterfinal games tonight. Just got back from Calihan and bummed as Romulus upset UD Jesuit Cubs. Romulus had a lead as big as 11 in the 3rd quarter, UDJ raced back and had a 3 pts lead at one point in the 4th, and Romulus won by 3 with a 3 pointer with 2 seconds to play. Romulus played hard, and smart all game long - a ton of credit to their coach and players. They hit big shots all game long, and somehow did a great job of neutralizing the UDJ big men all game long (despite having no comparable height).

Julian Dozier (So PG) had a monster game for UDJ, but didn't play the last 2 mins with an apparent calf strain or cramp. He had at least 19 points and had a nice all around game. Expect him to take a huge step forward again next year. And as someone else noted, Jaylen Thomas is a big Soph for UDJ who will ably fill in for the departing Nigerian big guys.

There was a really nice sized crowd at Calihan and a great atmosphere all around (well, except when Romulus hit the game winner). Again, got to keep Calihan as THE place for hoops in SE Michigan. Sitting along the scorer's table was AD Vowels with local legend Derrick Coleman. DC must have a tie to UDJ or UDM as I've seen him at many games the past 2 years. Go Cubs Go.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby Rogobob77 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:11 pm

TitanTarHeel wrote:High school state playoffs...

Quarterfinal games tonight. Just got back from Calihan and bummed as Romulus upset UD Jesuit Cubs. Romulus had a lead as big as 11 in the 3rd quarter, UDJ raced back and had a 3 pts lead at one point in the 4th, and Romulus won by 3 with a 3 pointer with 2 seconds to play. Romulus played hard, and smart all game long - a ton of credit to their coach and players. They hit big shots all game long, and somehow did a great job of neutralizing the UDJ big men all game long (despite having no comparable height).

Julian Dozier (So PG) had a monster game for UDJ, but didn't play the last 2 mins with an apparent calf strain or cramp. He had at least 19 points and had a nice all around game. Expect him to take a huge step forward again next year. And as someone else noted, Jaylen Thomas is a big Soph for UDJ who will ably fill in for the departing Nigerian big guys.

There was a really nice sized crowd at Calihan and a great atmosphere all around (well, except when Romulus hit the game winner). Again, got to keep Calihan as THE place for hoops in SE Michigan. Sitting along the scorer's table was AD Vowels with local legend Derrick Coleman. DC must have a tie to UDJ or UDM as I've seen him at many games the past 2 years. Go Cubs Go.

Link to game story and video of winning basket:

http://highschoolsports.mlive.com/news/ ... -d-jesuit/

In the late game st Calihan, West Bloomfield blasts Troy, 80-43.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby titanmac » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:13 pm

sarah thompson,woman titan golf, takes home her second career hl pow for her titan leading performance at the cardinal challenge. the senior, a two time all hl golfer, carded a 78 76 80 (234) good enough for 11th in the tourney and her 22nd top 20 career finish.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby Commissioner » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:43 pm

UIC becomes the last Horizon team eliminated from play, losing at Coastal Carolina in the semi-finals of the CBI, 89-78. UIC freshman Tarkus Ferguson led all scorers with 27 points.

The CBI will have a stinker of a final with Coastal against Wyoming. Wyoming is at least a something of a name program, from the Mountain West and all. But travel will be a bear (remember the CBI has a best of 3 format for the final), no one has ever heard of Coastal Carolina, neither is in a major metro area or even a small city where mid-major ball often draws well. Coastal Carolina is just 19-17 on the season.

The NIT semi-finalists will be TCU, Georgia Tech, Central Florida (which beat Illinois tonight), and Cal-State Bakersfield. Bakersfield has proven its top 75 RPI this year was merited, hammering Colorado State and UT-Arlington (don't laugh--UT-Arlington had a top 50 RPI and a win at St. Mary's this year) to reach Madison Square Garden.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby Commissioner » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:23 pm

It'll be TCU v Georgia Tech in NIT final. Tech beat Cal State Bakersfield in the semi-finals tonight, while TCU knocked off Central Florida.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby Commissioner » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:28 pm

On Wednesday, Wyoming (22-15) beat Coastal Carolina (20-18) to even the best-of-three CBI final at 1 game apiece. Announced crowd in Laramie was just 3811. The decisive game will be Friday in Laramie.

St. Peter's and Texas A&M-Corpus Christi reached the finals of the CIT last night. St. Peter's scored the game's first 15 points, held Furman (23-12) to 19 first half points, and rolled to a 77-51 victory in Jersey City. The Peacocks 22nd win gives them their most in a season since 1991. No attendance numbers were announced. TAMU-CC (24-11) used a 50-27 second half to defeat Maryland-Baltimore County (21-13) by a score of 79-61. 1388 attended in Baltimore. The St. Pete-TAMU-CC final will be Friday in Corpus Christi.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby titanmike » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:47 pm

Commissioner wrote:On Wednesday, Wyoming (22-15) beat Coastal Carolina (20-18) to even the best-of-three CBI final at 1 game apiece. Announced crowd in Laramie was just 3811. The decisive game will be Friday in Laramie.

St. Peter's and Texas A&M-Corpus Christi reached the finals of the CIT last night. St. Peter's scored the game's first 15 points, held Furman (23-12) to 19 first half points, and rolled to a 77-51 victory in Jersey City. The Peacocks 22nd win gives them their most in a season since 1991. No attendance numbers were announced. TAMU-CC (24-11) used a 50-27 second half to defeat Maryland-Baltimore County (21-13) by a score of 79-61. 1388 attended in Baltimore. The St. Pete-TAMU-CC final will be Friday in Corpus Christi.


3811? For the CBI that's pretty good I would say, for Laramie, not so good :D
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby Commissioner » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:51 pm

titanmike wrote:
Commissioner wrote:On Wednesday, Wyoming (22-15) beat Coastal Carolina (20-18) to even the best-of-three CBI final at 1 game apiece. Announced crowd in Laramie was just 3811. The decisive game will be Friday in Laramie.

St. Peter's and Texas A&M-Corpus Christi reached the finals of the CIT last night. St. Peter's scored the game's first 15 points, held Furman (23-12) to 19 first half points, and rolled to a 77-51 victory in Jersey City. The Peacocks 22nd win gives them their most in a season since 1991. No attendance numbers were announced. TAMU-CC (24-11) used a 50-27 second half to defeat Maryland-Baltimore County (21-13) by a score of 79-61. 1388 attended in Baltimore. The St. Pete-TAMU-CC final will be Friday in Corpus Christi.


3811? For the CBI that's pretty good I would say, for Laramie, not so good :D


Last year's CBI championship (3 game series) drew 4187 for game 1 in Morehead, Kentucky, then 7431 in game 2 at Nevada, and 9043 in game 3 at Nevada. Two years ago game 2 (Loyola @ Louisiana Monroe) drew 4460.

Wonder how much longer the CBI can straggle on with 3811 for the finals.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby Commissioner » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:29 pm

TCU crushed Georgia Tech 88-56 tonight, to win the NIT. From the NCAA right down to the CIT and CBI, this has been the most boring college hoops post-season I can recall. TCU wraps up the season at 24-15 and will start next year with the nation's third longest winning streak.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby Commissioner » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:12 pm

Wyoming (23-15) won the CBI, easily beating Coastal Carolina (20-19) 83-59 to win the best of three final, 2-1. Hayden Dalton led the way with 19 points and 11 rebounds. Attendance was 6321.

In the CIT final, St. Peter's trailed Texas A&M-Corpus Christi (24-12) until the final minutes in Corpus Christi. With 3:18 left, a Quadir Welton jumper gave the Peacocks their first lead since it was 3-2 in the opening minutes. The Peacocks (23-13) never gave it back, and went on to win 62-61. Welton, a senior, finished his last game with 12 points and 13 rebounds. Attendance was listed at 1200.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby TitanTarHeel » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:42 pm

We are on the cusp of the final game of basketball in the NCAA season. My Tar Heels vs our Jesuit brethren Gonzaga. Hoping for a great game, and a UNC win of course. Perhaps Commish will give us some pithy comments to conclude and wrap up the 2016-17 season with a neat little bow. Or he's long since moved on now that his coverage of the NIT and CBI has come to a conclusion.

Otherwise, gonna be a potentially long and tedious off season around the board, or hope may spring eternal whenever the recruits roll in and the hype train going into 2017-18 season will be rolling in full gear.
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby Commissioner » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:42 pm

UNC Wins It All!

Sorry Tar Heel, that's all I've got.

I think this was the most boring tournament I can recall, and I've watched a lot. Final was close, but I didn't find it a very interesting game, either.

Nation's longest winning streaks:
Grand Canyon 7 (This could be a money maker in bar trivia)
North Carolina 6
TCU 5
St. Peter's 4
Northwestern State 3
Savannah State 3
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Re: Pontiac Scoreboard

Postby uofdfan1983 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:47 am

I also didn't really enjoy the game, or the outcome. In my convoluted brain, I had determined that somehow Gonzaga winning would have been good for our Jesuit Institution (and I am probably right, even in defeat, that it helps us). But what this game showed me is that (drumroll, please)....SIZE MATTERS! Both teams are huge. I was actually disappointed in the athleticism, guard play and shooting on both sides. Maybe it was just an off day, but it seemed to me that the court was too small for these behemoths and that both teams literally slug it out inside and beat you up with height, weight, strength and determination, and that's apparently how you win at the highest level. That doesn't bode well for us, and I guess would confirm the need to recruit overseas for size. Problem is that our 7-footer right now is SO SO different than the ones I saw playing yesterday. He has improved but can he ever provide 50% of the inside presence that the brutes on both sides exhibited? On the other hand, if we can sign a true PG, a couple athletic slashers and a couple serviceable big men, we can be good in our league again. But it makes me sad that to climb the mountain you apparently need a few mountain men to control the paint.

Commish: props for running this scoreboard all year. A monumental effort. You are a treasure, and we are lucky to have you. Keep the faith. We will rise again!
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