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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby Rogobob77 » Wed May 30, 2018 2:47 pm

Titans03 wrote:This would explain why the search is taking so long right?

Perhaps RV has been majorly distracted, tasked with filling a key position at UDM while at the same time looking to parachute himself to a safe landing in other pastures. I would think he wants or needs to hire a Titan MBB coach before he can move on. Hopefully that will take place soon.

I did bump into one of the Assistant ADs at UDM last month who advised that it was his decision not to be on the HC search committee. He was otherwise tight-lipped about specifics of the process, understandably. I was, however, a bit surprised by his absence on the committee — seems like that would be a person that needs to be involved in the process for a variety of reasons, e.g., to help develop the AAD’s scope of duties in administration, to facilitate continuity of function in the event the AD were to leave in the near future, etc.

At the end of last season I (along with several others I talked to) speculated that BA would get one more year to try and right the ship, RV would depart in the summer, a replacement AD would be hired later in the year, and the new person would then have the opportunity make a decision whether to continue BA or not at the end of the 2018-19 campaign and potentially pick a HC successor. That obviously did not come to fruition. I’m wondering now if off-the-court negative stuff on BA surfaced unexpectedly in March that caused him to get the ax some weeks after the season ended. That would help explain, although not totally excuse, the late and slow pace in getting the search process out of the starting blocks.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby TitanVoiceofReason » Wed May 30, 2018 4:46 pm

The AD should come first but all I can say is what a mess. With Vowels gone or soon to be gone it may explain why no one has accepted the position. A new coach wants to know who his boss is and the AD wants to hire his own coach because his success depends on the coach. I was listening to 97.1 earlier and they were talking about the Pistons trying to hire a new President, possibly a GM and a coach. Their discussion easily could have been about UD instead of the Pistons.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby cjmcgow35 » Wed May 30, 2018 4:53 pm

TitanVoiceofReason wrote:The AD should come first but all I can say is what a mess. With Vowels gone or soon to be gone it may explain why no one has accepted the position. A new coach wants to know who his boss is and the AD wants to hire his own coach because his success depends on the coach. I was listening to 97.1 earlier and they were talking about the Pistons trying to hire a new President, possibly a GM and a coach. Their discussion easily could have been about UD instead of the Pistons.


The mid-day show did mention us a little bit and how it's been two months without having a coach. They also talked about Chatman leaving and a possible factor being not knowing who the coach would be.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby 77-85Titan » Thu May 31, 2018 1:47 am

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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby Tacitus651 » Thu May 31, 2018 9:26 am

I HAVE to believe that today they will announce a press conference for tomorrow. Going into June is embarrassing enough. Going into another weekend with no coach might cause what's left of our fan base to get the pitchforks.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby 77-85Titan » Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:44 pm

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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby 77-85Titan » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:17 am

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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby 77-85Titan » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:00 am

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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby 77-85Titan » Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:11 pm

Day 72

I'd love to wrap up this thread, but it just might be continuing for a while.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby 77-85Titan » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:25 pm

Day 73

Could this be the last day to post on this thread?
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby HSScout1 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:30 pm

77-85Titan wrote:Day 73

Could this be the last day to post on this thread?


It all comes down to who you believe, Coaching Changes or Tony Paul. I have no doubt that Tony is correct this time.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby R.B.J1 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:32 pm

HSScout1 wrote:
77-85Titan wrote:Day 73

Could this be the last day to post on this thread?


It all comes down to who you believe, Coaching Changes or Tony Paul. I have no doubt that Tony is correct this time.


For once in his life I hope that Tony Paul is right.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby Tacitus651 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:38 pm

I think Paul is right. Coaching Changes is anonymous guys with no regard for what's accurate. Paul puts his reputation on the line whenever he tweets anything. And after The Mole made a fool of him, he can't afford more slip ups.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby titanmike » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:56 pm

Tacitus651 wrote:I think Paul is right. Coaching Changes is anonymous guys with no regard for what's accurate. Paul puts his reputation on the line whenever he tweets anything. And after The Mole made a fool of him, he can't afford more slip ups.


I wouldn't completely say coaching changes has always been wrong, but I think in this crazy search anyone is capable.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby Tacitus651 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:37 pm

Wikipedia says Davis is the coach at Detroit Mercy. That's probably where Tony Paul got his confirmation.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby NC Titan » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:34 pm

Tacitus651 wrote:Wikipedia says Davis is the coach at Detroit Mercy. That's probably where Tony Paul got his confirmation.


I certainly hope that no respectable journalist (I know, I know) gets his information from Wikipedia.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby Tacitus651 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:36 pm

Then Paul mentioned Wikipedia in his article an hour after I posted that. I see you, Tony! ; )
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby Rogobob77 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:43 pm

A point I’ve made previously, by stretching this process out to now a third month, candidates can smell UDM’s desperation. The school’s negotiating position is weakened as options evaporate, and in the long Detroit Mercy very well may end up paying more money than it had to for a coach.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby Commissioner » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:54 pm

Rogobob77 wrote:A point I’ve made previously, by stretching this process out to now a third month, candidates can smell UDM’s desperation. The school’s negotiating position is weakened as options evaporate, and in the long Detroit Mercy very well may end up paying more money than it had to for a coach.

I have ever seen such gross incompetence in a search for a major hire, from start to finish. Ending up with someone of Davis's caliber would only mask that incompetence, not undo it. But it appears we may not be able to close that deal.
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Re: U-D Held Hostage

Postby 77-85Titan » Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:03 pm

Day 74

I feel like Vowels is Jimmy Carter bringing the helicopters to Iran to get the hostages only to have them crash in the desert. By the way, this is not a political comment, it is a historical one.
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