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So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:32 pm
by EarlTheTwirl
All the worrying, whining, complaining, blaming, etc didn’t matter after all.

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:04 pm
by Dick Vitale
Interesting times. Of all years for this to happen, lucky us.

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:24 pm
by EarlTheTwirl
I was being a little facetious!

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:36 pm
by Dick Vitale
Its painful to see teams like Gonzaga have to sit out the NCAA. So deserving for post season action.

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:38 pm
by Commissioner
Dick Vitale wrote:Its painful to see teams like Gonzaga have to sit out the NCAA. So deserving for post season action.

Liberty... 30-4, probably looking at an 11/12 seed line, 4 seniors in starting lineup. This was their chance.

San Diego State/Dayton -- schools like these don't get final four quality teams too often.

Rutgers--probably was looking at getting in for first time in 30 years.

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:13 am
by Rogobob77
Here it is — One shining moment for 2020:

https://247sports.com/college/michigan- ... 144975405/

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:02 am
by UDDRUMMER
Apparently everyone was banned from the post season.

It would be nice if the NCAA could grant additional eligibility to the seniors next season. It's a crappy way to end their college career.

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:40 am
by Commissioner
UDDRUMMER wrote:Apparently everyone was banned from the post season.

It would be nice if the NCAA could grant additional eligibility to the seniors next season. It's a crappy way to end their college career.

No. Life happens. Part of life is learning to deal with things. Every year some senior misses the tournament because they get the flu, or get injured late in the season. Although we let kids transfer more freely, we don't give them an extra year if their team is put on probation. I like Justin Miller, but why should Justin Miller get an extra season? Or does the extra year only go to seniors on teams not yet eliminated? But what if you've been eliminated and might--but probably won't-- get a bid, such as kids from Northern Iowa? What about teams still playing? Do Wichita State seniors get another year? Memphis seniors? Who was going to win the Big Sky tournament? The MAAC tournament? The SWAC? The MEAC? The Big West? CUSA? The Ivy? The WAC? The MAC?

What about the HS senior who signed because he was promised playing time when the senior backcourt graduated? If we don't count the seniors against the scholarship limit next year (as some have suggested), why should some teams get more scholarships than others? How is that fair? And if we do count them, what does that do to teams with signed recruits placing them over the limit?

Why should this be restricted to seniors? Underclassmen at Boston U are going to miss their chance to play in the NCAA tournament this year. Whether or not their seniors are given an extra year, it doubtful that BU will make it back to the tournament next year. So the juniors are screwed as much as the seniors. Then there are the underclassmen, perhaps a guy like Obi Toppin, who hoped to finish with an NCAA appearance before turning pro.

This is one of those instant "feel good" ideas that really makes little sense. Life isn't always fair, and can't be made fair. Disappointments happen, and dealing with them makes us better people.

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:44 am
by Big Chuck
Commish,
Great post! Life goes on.

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:13 am
by Tacitus651
I agree with Commish. But, I think the NCAA should have said they’d consider a modified version of the NCAA tournament in May after schools have commencement should the public health situation vastly improve (and make it clear this is an idea but promise nothing). I think if the NCAA selected 16 or 32 teams and played in smaller venues (perhaps D2 gyms that would be easy to schedule) in late May, it would make most fans happy. Yes, a lot of bubble teams would be upset. But, as said, life isn’t fair. Such an abbreviated tourney would be a great sign of hope and really lift spirits as we start to resume normalcy. Plus, it’d be a huge economic impact as you’d still get the tv revenue. Not to mention the local economic benefit you’d see. Heck, you could fly in 16 teams to a midsized city that makes sense from the public health angle and play it over one week. I think the NCAA would need to have abbreviated tournaments for nearly every other spring sport as well. It’d be a bad optic to do it for basketball and nothing else. But, it could probably all be done. Completely fair? No. But we could have made things work in May/June with a little creativity.

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:35 am
by NC Titan
Big Chuck wrote:Commish,
Great post! Life goes on.


+1

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:07 pm
by Commissioner
Tacitus651 wrote:I agree with Commish.

And if Tacitus and Commish agree, it must be so!

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:57 pm
by Rogobob77
NCAA considers releasing official tourney bracket:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... d/28899604

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:06 pm
by dennycrane
I agree with The Commissioner as well. This is part of life and learning how to deal with disappointments is also part of life. Someone above pointed out that Liberty is 30-4, I'm guessing it's their best season ever. They beat UCLA this season; that is a trophy win no one can ever take away. Some of us know or remember Dayton very well and this perhaps was their best season since the Donny May team played John Wooden's UCLA team for the NCAA championship in the late '60s. San Diego State is very much in the same boat, as far as how this season went.

To the question of whether the ban mattered, and I understand Twirl was being facetious, but it did matter. On the court, the '19-'20 Titans were never a threat to win the Horizon League championship. But recruiting was hampered significantly in the most recent cycle and importantly, the highest achieving academic university in the league was stained by a ban which most people see as strictly academic in nature and do not understand the retention aspect of it, nor how the APR number is calculated. UDM routinely has dozens of athletes among its sports teams who make the Dean's List, earn HL academic honors or similar awards. The public doesn't see that unless it digs deeper but they perhaps do remember a news article about the tournament ban.

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:16 pm
by Rogobob77
Rogobob77 wrote:NCAA considers releasing official tourney bracket:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... d/28899604

ESPN: NCAA tournament media coordinator -- No plans to release bracket

https://tv5.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... se-bracket

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:27 pm
by Rogobob77
ESPN: NCAA mulled 16-team tournament over 1 weekend before final decision

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... l-decision

Re: So Our NCAA Ban Didn’t Matter

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:29 pm
by Rogobob77
ESPN: NCAA to discuss granting athletes eligibility relief

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... ity-relief