Poll: Fans in the stadium

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Would you be willing to go to a game this year?

No
2
14%
Yes, if a plan is made up to control distancing and everyone is wear PPE
4
29%
Yes, I don't care what every they ask me to do I will do to watch this team
4
29%
Only if a vaccine came out
4
29%
 
Total votes : 14

Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby JDetroitTitan » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:04 pm

Vowels said they are leaning in more favor of not letting fans in the stadium



Hypothetically if I were going to put a plan out there it would look something like this:

-I would remove all the lower sitting (bleacher courtside)
-Fan would be season ticket holders and visitors'' parents only. This way you could plan sitting so everyone is distanced. The sits that will not be used zip tied closed. Seating would be assigned by the school based on first purchase (season holder) or longest season hold gets the closer seat.
-Fan would be limited to only enter at the front door near the ticket sale. Rope off the hallways. You can only come in and go up the one staircase. Temperature are taken at the door. You always have to have your mask on (unless eating). (Sell mask that say Detroit titan at the door )
-Players only enter the court from the back entrance that way they are far away from being in contact with fans.
-Doors open 1.5hr before game and will be closed 5 min before tip-off. Once doors are close you are not allowed in.
-No live national anthem performance. Play a tape of the national anthem over the big screen.
-Ushers will bring and take your order.
-After the game is over stay seated until ushers let your section out. This way there is not a mad dash to the door and will allow time for the players to leave the court and enter the locker room.
-Players family will wait in their seat until their player (son, family member) comes to get them to leave. (no one waiting in the hallway after the game)
-Also put the hand sanitizer station
-Bathroom will be only one location and have the ushers control the flow to the bathroom (if that is possible dependent on code and number of people)

All season tickets will be priced and sold as a donation. No refunds if the game is canceled. Included in the price 3 items a drink (item 1), slice of pizza, hot dog or nacho (Item 2), and chips, cookie or popcorn (item 3). This way you know you will have enough to running your concession stand and can plan out a delivery system.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby TitanBen » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:22 pm

I like your plan JD
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby Rogobob77 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:16 pm

I like your plan. I don’t think you would need to remove the bleachers, I would just not allow fan access to the Calihan lower bowl.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby The-Dude » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:44 am

JDetroitTitan wrote:Vowels said they are leaning in more favor of not letting fans in the stadium



Hypothetically if I were going to put a plan out there it would look something like this:

-I would remove all the lower sitting (bleacher courtside)
-Fan would be season ticket holders and visitors'' parents only. This way you could plan sitting so everyone is distanced. The sits that will not be used zip tied closed. Seating would be assigned by the school based on first purchase (season holder) or longest season hold gets the closer seat.
-Fan would be limited to only enter at the front door near the ticket sale. Rope off the hallways. You can only come in and go up the one staircase. Temperature are taken at the door. You always have to have your mask on (unless eating). (Sell mask that say Detroit titan at the door )
-Players only enter the court from the back entrance that way they are far away from being in contact with fans.
-Doors open 1.5hr before game and will be closed 5 min before tip-off. Once doors are close you are not allowed in.
-No live national anthem performance. Play a tape of the national anthem over the big screen.
-Ushers will bring and take your order.
-After the game is over stay seated until ushers let your section out. This way there is not a mad dash to the door and will allow time for the players to leave the court and enter the locker room.
-Players family will wait in their seat until their player (son, family member) comes to get them to leave. (no one waiting in the hallway after the game)
-Also put the hand sanitizer station
-Bathroom will be only one location and have the ushers control the flow to the bathroom (if that is possible dependent on code and number of people)

All season tickets will be priced and sold as a donation. No refunds if the game is canceled. Included in the price 3 items a drink (item 1), slice of pizza, hot dog or nacho (Item 2), and chips, cookie or popcorn (item 3). This way you know you will have enough to running your concession stand and can plan out a delivery system.


Thank GOD that you are not in charge of this plan. Your problem solving skills are questionable :) . While seemingly addressing a specific set of issues, you are creating more. Zip tying seats?! Seriously? Also moving bleachers is also completely unnecessary.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby 1975SHjoe » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:43 am

Like all initial plans they are all subject to review and adjustments. But in principal its a positive approach to a health risk problem. Overall a good start.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby JDetroitTitan » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:44 pm

Rogobob77 wrote:I like your plan. I don’t think you would need to remove the bleachers, I would just not allow fan access to the Calihan lower bowl.


I didn't mean physically remove just not have anyone sitting in them or have access to it. I personally would just keep the bleachers closed. Maybe by doing that you can get some close camera shoots of the game along that side line now.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby ptctitan » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:25 am

Thanks JDT for trying to find a middle ground that lets fans enjoy attending games. I didn't vote in the poll because none of the choices reflect my view towards the issue.

I would not attend a game if the university required me to abide by a list of restrictions like those you have suggested. That is my personal choice. For those who would attend a game with those types of restrictions in place, that's their personal choice. For those who fear the virus and want to stay home, that's fine, too.

What's the point of going to a game in person if you can't socialize normally? If you couldn't gather in the Titan Club room after a win and have some fun with fellow Titan fans? Even if there is a vaccine, there will always be positive test results unless the virus dies on its own. By now, each of us should know our personal age and health risks to the effects of COVID and the age and health risks of those in our households. We should be able to make whatever decision is best for ourselves and our families. When I balance these risks against the reduced fun I'd have from those restrictions, I would stay home and watch on TV or listen on the radio. For those who would accept those restrictions and attend, I hope they'd have lots of fun and enjoy many Titan victories.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby Big Chuck » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:49 am

The option of Yes was not offered, so I chose one of the yes ifs. That place is huge. If I can go to target with a mask, what's the difference between that and Calihan? Treat us as adults. Let society get back to something near normal. And yes i am over 70 and have risks. Restrict attendance to 1,000 to 1,500 and let it go.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby JDetroitTitan » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:21 pm

Big Chuck wrote:The option of Yes was not offered, so I chose one of the yes ifs. That place is huge. If I can go to target with a mask, what's the difference between that and Calihan? Treat us as adults. Let society get back to something near normal. And yes i am over 70 and have risks. Restrict attendance to 1,000 to 1,500 and let it go.


The titan fan base for years now have been social distance before it was even a thing in Calihan Hall :lol: .
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby Hoopster_Now_In_DC » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:37 am

JDetroitTitan wrote:Vowels said they are leaning in more favor of not letting fans in the stadium



Hypothetically if I were going to put a plan out there it would look something like this:

-I would remove all the lower sitting (bleacher courtside)
-Fan would be season ticket holders and visitors'' parents only. This way you could plan sitting so everyone is distanced. The sits that will not be used zip tied closed. Seating would be assigned by the school based on first purchase (season holder) or longest season hold gets the closer seat.
-Fan would be limited to only enter at the front door near the ticket sale. Rope off the hallways. You can only come in and go up the one staircase. Temperature are taken at the door. You always have to have your mask on (unless eating). (Sell mask that say Detroit titan at the door )
-Players only ent
er the court from the back entrance that way they are far away from being in contact with fans.
-Doors open 1.5hr before game and will be closed 5 min before tip-off. Once doors are close you are not allowed in.
-No live national anthem performance. Play a tape of the national anthem over the big screen.
-Ushers will bring and take your order.
-After the game is over stay seated until ushers let your section out. This way there is not a mad dash to the door and will allow time for the players to leave the court and enter the locker room.
-Players family will wait in their seat until their player (son, family member) comes to get them to leave. (no one waiting in the hallway after the game)
-Also put the hand sanitizer station
-Bathroom will be only one location and have the ushers control the flow to the bathroom (if that is possible dependent on code and number of people)

All season tickets will be priced and sold as a donation. No refunds if the game is canceled. Included in the price 3 items a drink (item 1), slice of pizza, hot dog or nacho (Item 2), and chips, cookie or popcorn (item 3). This way you know you will have enough to running your concession stand and can plan out a delivery system.


Wow. With all the new protocols in place, I’m beginning to think people will just lose interest in sports and find suitable replacements to occupy their time. I find myself gravitating to more reading for instance and taking on various recreational activities. I now comb through amazon.com and my own bookshelf to find good reads old and new (just finished the “Arc of Justice” written by UD alum Kevin Boyle). From civi rights, to technology, to history, I find myself consumed more with this form of entertainment. Certainly more so than watching games on tv with no fans - there is something artificial about that in my opinion.
No longer am I glued to the games on tv, instead one glimpse is looking at the score while with book in hand, the next is evaluating the next chapter. My workout regimen has become interesting too as I mix in biking, walking, boxing, and plenty of strength training.

These new personal habits have benefits to, I just received blood lab results that made my doctor happy and finally got her off of my back :D . Anyhow, these new normals with all its nuances, uncertainties, unpredictability’s, and there inconveniences have residual affects. The idea is to be at peace with the outcomes.

As far as the posted question, I would answer sure, I would love to attend a game live and in person. And afterwards take a quick trip down to the old Buddy’s and enjoy the company of other Titan fans along with a beverage or two and a nice pie. However, the answer would be notated by an asterisk because like so many other occurrences in the new normal era, it depends on the daily briefings we get. Spikes trending upwards today and then downwards tomorrow.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby dennycrane » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:55 am

Hoopster, in particular, but JD also, touch on issues which are relevant to the Titan game experience. We cannot afford to lose any more fans, whatever the reason. If fans are not permitted to attend this year, some may not come back, ever. And social distancing? We are way ahead of the 2020 trend in that regard.

As Big Chuck and pct suggest, treat the fans as adults and let them assess their own risks and rewards.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby Hoopster_Now_In_DC » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:20 pm

dennycrane wrote:Hoopster, in particular, but JD also, touch on issues which are relevant to the Titan game experience. We cannot afford to lose any more fans, whatever the reason. If fans are not permitted to attend this year, some may not come back, ever. And social distancing? We are way ahead of the 2020 trend in that regard.

As Big Chuck and pct suggest, treat the fans as adults and let them assess their own risks and rewards.


You make valid points Denny. But as I stated, this is that residual outcome of the pandemic. The University will have to come-up with creative ways that compensate losing fans.

Add women’s Volleyball maybe football, add a medical school, become an academic force, do something extraordinary because I’m afraid Covid-19 will have a lasting impact on our society.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby JDetroitTitan » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:00 pm

So, we have about two thirds that are willing to go to the game on this small poll and what does the University do? They are the first ones to jump off the ship in the HL. It is one thing coming from the head of the conference but from the university. All I have to say is we have weak leadership that takes the easy way out. First man to jump ship is always the coward. The strongest leader stay to the bitter end so everyone is safely off the ship.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby NC Titan » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:51 pm

The smart thing to do is not have fans. So far the school is doing well and there have not been many/any Covid cases on campus. That is more important than having fans at the games.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby JDetroitTitan » Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:14 am

NC Titan wrote:The smart thing to do is not have fans.


Why?
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby Shags-DC » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:30 pm

See: Europe. That is where we are headed in the weeks and months ahead with cold weather, holiday gatherings, little outside activity, and flu season, except we never got the numbers way down like they did, so we are starting with a higher base. Just pray you and your loved ones don't have other medical issues that require a hospital visit until Spring.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby ptctitan » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:37 am

Shags-DC wrote:See: Europe. That is where we are headed in the weeks and months ahead with cold weather, holiday gatherings, little outside activity, and flu season, except we never got the numbers way down like they did, so we are starting with a higher base. Just pray you and your loved ones don't have other medical issues that require a hospital visit until Spring.


If we keep equating each positive test result to a sick person who is contagious, we will never learn to adapt and live with the virus. We should have let the virus run its course in young and healthy people over the summer so that the greatest percentage of those people were at much lower risk of spreading the virus during this winter. But, instead, too many "leaders" became fixated with stamping out case numbers instead of mitigating the disease before there was an effective vaccine - if there ever will be an effective vaccine. From a systems perspective, I don't understand the policy decisions of those "experts."

That said, we have little choice but to restrict or ban attendance because the policies we chose to implement inevitably will lead to more sick people this winter. We kicked the can down the road because we did not view this public health problem as a systems issue with different components and risk segments comprising the system. But we got our case numbers down in the northern States over the summer so the "experts" could feel like they were accomplishing something. But, at what cost? As Shags said, hope your loved ones don't need to visit a hospital over the winter.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby The-Dude » Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:32 pm

ptctitan wrote:
Shags-DC wrote:See: Europe. That is where we are headed in the weeks and months ahead with cold weather, holiday gatherings, little outside activity, and flu season, except we never got the numbers way down like they did, so we are starting with a higher base. Just pray you and your loved ones don't have other medical issues that require a hospital visit until Spring.


If we keep equating each positive test result to a sick person who is contagious, we will never learn to adapt and live with the virus. We should have let the virus run its course in young and healthy people over the summer so that the greatest percentage of those people were at much lower risk of spreading the virus during this winter. But, instead, too many "leaders" became fixated with stamping out case numbers instead of mitigating the disease before there was an effective vaccine - if there ever will be an effective vaccine. From a systems perspective, I don't understand the policy decisions of those "experts."

That said, we have little choice but to restrict or ban attendance because the policies we chose to implement inevitably will lead to more sick people this winter. We kicked the can down the road because we did not view this public health problem as a systems issue with different components and risk segments comprising the system. But we got our case numbers down in the northern States over the summer so the "experts" could feel like they were accomplishing something. But, at what cost? As Shags said, hope your loved ones don't need to visit a hospital over the winter.


PTC, heard immunity does not work. This is a fact proven by many cases around the world.
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Re: Poll: Fans in the stadium

Postby The-Dude » Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:38 pm

JDetroitTitan wrote:
NC Titan wrote:The smart thing to do is not have fans.


Why?


@JDetroitTitan, I’m said this before. This was an ill advised post and your initial ideas were simply head scratching. You further compound the issue but wanting NC to explain what he stated, which is the obvious. Fans should not be in the stands. It’s irresponsible to think otherwise.
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