ptctitan wrote:Bottom line is that we won comfortably and that tacitus651 is not leaving us for good.
Tacitus651 wrote:JJJ should get minutes but he should pass more and shoot less.
Tacitus651 wrote:We shouldn't beat up on JJJ. But, I can't understand why he is starting over Allen, who was HL freshman of the year. Would be explainable IF these 3s were sinking. OR if JJJ were playing like a true PG and distributing the ball.
JJJ should get minutes but he should pass more and shoot less. Chatman and Prince might save this season.
Commissioner wrote:Tacitus651 wrote:We shouldn't beat up on JJJ. But, I can't understand why he is starting over Allen, who was HL freshman of the year. Would be explainable IF these 3s were sinking. OR if JJJ were playing like a true PG and distributing the ball.
JJJ should get minutes but he should pass more and shoot less. Chatman and Prince might save this season.
I think that is fair criticism (maybe because I agree with it!). With some commentators, though, it seems to me the criticism takes on a very personal edge, and I personally think that is uncalled for. JJJ is a good player, he's a true freshman playing his first two games. There's a few guys who just want to carp and attack everything he does. (My theory is that JJ Sr. stole their girlfriends back in the 90s). JJJ will get better and we should be a better team for having him. The coaches need to help make that last a reality. For now none of our guards seem to be able to hit a blast furnace with a heat seeking missile. Hopefully this will even out in future games.
Commissioner wrote:Tacitus651 wrote:We shouldn't beat up on JJJ. But, I can't understand why he is starting over Allen, who was HL freshman of the year. Would be explainable IF these 3s were sinking. OR if JJJ were playing like a true PG and distributing the ball.
JJJ should get minutes but he should pass more and shoot less. Chatman and Prince might save this season.
I think that is fair criticism (maybe because I agree with it!). With some commentators, though, it seems to me the criticism takes on a very personal edge, and I personally think that is uncalled for. JJJ is a good player, he's a true freshman playing his first two games. There's a few guys who just want to carp and attack everything he does. (My theory is that JJ Sr. stole their girlfriends back in the 90s). JJJ will get better and we should be a better team for having him. The coaches need to help make that last a reality. For now none of our guards seem to be able to hit a blast furnace with a heat seeking missile. Hopefully this will even out in future games.
ptctitan wrote:As to line-up's, we'll see how this works out through the year. It's almost as if there is a Dakota line-up with Blackshear, JJJr, Tariiq, Josh + Chatman and a bigger non-Dakota line-up with Black and Allen at guards, Prince, Hogan, and Chatman with Long as a sub at the other positions. With Ballantyne getting time when he is healthy. But I agree with Commissioner that we should end up with a blend of those line-up's as the season progresses.
Commissioner wrote:Noting that there's something a bit humorous in a guy like me, who doesn't know as much about hoops on the floor as our coaches, nor about our players, and who never sees a practice, saying who should play, I still think the lineup should be what most of us predicted:
McFolley
Allen
Chatman
Prince
Hogan
First off the bench should be Jackson and Tariiq (who has emerged from the pack). More limited time for Blackshear, Black, and Ballantyne. Long, Eichler and I. Jones see only spot play and garbage time.
Minutes would go roughly:
Chatman 32
Allen 30
McFolley 28
Hogan 26 (he can't play more because of foul trouble)
Prince 24
JJJ 20
T. Jones 15
Blackshear 13
Black 6
Ballantyne 6
Long/Eichler/I. Jones total 4
There's a few extra minutes because players miss some games.
titandave wrote:Commissioner wrote:Noting that there's something a bit humorous in a guy like me, who doesn't know as much about hoops on the floor as our coaches, nor about our players, and who never sees a practice, saying who should play, I still think the lineup should be what most of us predicted:
McFolley
Allen
Chatman
Prince
Hogan
First off the bench should be Jackson and Tariiq (who has emerged from the pack). More limited time for Blackshear, Black, and Ballantyne. Long, Eichler and I. Jones see only spot play and garbage time.
Minutes would go roughly:
Chatman 32
Allen 30
McFolley 28
Hogan 26 (he can't play more because of foul trouble)
Prince 24
JJJ 20
T. Jones 15
Blackshear 13
Black 6
Ballantyne 6
Long/Eichler/I. Jones total 4
There's a few extra minutes because players miss some games.
Count me in on this proposed starting line up and distribution of minutes!
titanmac wrote:jackson is going to get more minutes than mcfolley. t jones will get as many if not more than prince.
Commissioner wrote:On further reflection, I think the minutes probably ought to come out more along these lines:
Chatman 32
Prince 24
Hogan 26
McFolley 30
Allen 30
JJJ 25
Tariiq 15
Blackshear 10
Black 6
Everybody else --spot play/garbage/fill in if someone injured/suspended. Maybe Ballantine can take some minutes from Tariiq or Blackshear.
Of course, you don't coach to fill minutes--minutes ought to reflect what is working on the court. But I suspect that's about what we should end up with if we sort out the rotation and get the best combos out there.The point is, you've got to shorten the rotation some, and you've got to decide what to do with the Allen/McFolley/JJJ combo. They are all good players, but it's an awfully short lineup when all three are on the floor. Blackshear's gonna have to show more.
TitanTarHeel wrote:One possible way to have the 3 guards out there is to run some pseudo havoc defense with them applying some amount of full court pressure. Since none of them will be typically playing 35+ mins per game they ought to have some energy to burn and who knows perhaps that pressure causes some turnovers or gets the other team's offense out of whack a bit. Employ the 3 this way for a few stretches in a game as a change of pace.
Rashad recently tweeted out about how he always applied some kind of pressure, and it was really the job of a good PG to do so.
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